Mobius Strip? In the Ultimate Powers Book (by Necromancer) there is a power - Mobius Strip QuoteUltimate Powers Book by Necromancer M37/Mobius Strip**: The Mobius Strip or Mobius Loop, Mobius Band or Mobius is a surface with only one side (when embedded in three dimensional Euclidian space) and only one boundary. The Mobius Strip has the mathematical property of being unorientable. It can be realized as a rules surface. It’s discovery is attributed to Ferdinand Mobius in 1858. A hero who can perform the higher level of mathematics required to understand the Mobius Strip can use it to teleport through space and time anywhere with in the Omniverse, limited only by their Power Rank. The hero may teleport to distant stars and worlds or even alternate dimensions or times. Powers which block Teleport are uneffective against the Mobius Strip. By holding hands, a user of the Mobius Strip may take along passengers with him through Euclidian spaces. A user of the Mobius Strip may also speak with the spirits of the dead and as a power stunt may eventually learn Zombie Animation. Anyone have a clue where this came from? There's nothing for it in the SuperPowers wiki... https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85803#msg-85803 Tue, 14 May 2024 04:15:40 -0600 Phorum 5.2.22 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,86033#msg-86033 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,86033#msg-86033 Howlet General Discussion Mon, 18 Mar 2024 19:22:07 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85914#msg-85914 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85914#msg-85914 nijineko General Discussion Tue, 17 Oct 2023 12:45:34 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85878#msg-85878 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85878#msg-85878
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It came in one of the later revisions of his UPB compilation/update works, and strangely that power is uncredited on Page 2 where other new powers and contributions are mentioned. Honestly, it seems like a glorified teleportation power that can get around effects that block teleportation... and I'm not really a fan of multiple versions of same or similar powers due to different mechanics.

For me, teleportation is teleportation regardless of whether a character dematerializes and rematerializes somewhere else, walks through a portal, moves between dimensions (like Nightcrawler), hops on the mobius strip, or just instantaneously appears at the desired location. It's all one power and the specifics of how it works should be worked out between player & judge.

But where this one gets weird is stating that the user of the power can also speak with the dead and possibly learn zombie animation... with no explanation for how a mobius strip accomplishes these things. If I had to hazard a guess as to the source of the power, I would lay it at the feet of the man who calls himself Necromancer... just because of the addition of the death & undeath sub-powers.

Other powers that he did credit himself for creating for that book include:
  • Enhanced Reflexes
  • Continuum Split
  • Omniversal Awareness
  • Mystic Energy Manipulation

Mobius strip teleportation seems to fit with that list.


I bet I know where this poswer came from. This sounds very much like abilities used by one of the protagonist’s of Brian Lumley’s Necroscope books. The character could speak to the dead, ask them to rise up and fight for him and learned from a dead philosopher/mathematician how to use the equation of the mobius strip to trace though space and even time.]]> Mr Happy General Discussion Mon, 02 Oct 2023 21:42:13 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85820#msg-85820 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85820#msg-85820 barna10 General Discussion Fri, 04 Aug 2023 13:41:12 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85816#msg-85816 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85816#msg-85816
For me, teleportation is teleportation regardless of whether a character dematerializes and rematerializes somewhere else, walks through a portal, moves between dimensions (like Nightcrawler), hops on the mobius strip, or just instantaneously appears at the desired location. It's all one power and the specifics of how it works should be worked out between player & judge.

But where this one gets weird is stating that the user of the power can also speak with the dead and possibly learn zombie animation... with no explanation for how a mobius strip accomplishes these things. If I had to hazard a guess as to the source of the power, I would lay it at the feet of the man who calls himself Necromancer... just because of the addition of the death & undeath sub-powers.

Other powers that he did credit himself for creating for that book include:
  • Enhanced Reflexes
  • Continuum Split
  • Omniversal Awareness
  • Mystic Energy Manipulation

Mobius strip teleportation seems to fit with that list.]]> Thrudjelmer General Discussion Thu, 03 Aug 2023 11:44:07 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85805#msg-85805 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85805#msg-85805 G.A.W. General Discussion Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:16:12 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85804#msg-85804 Re: Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85804#msg-85804
I wonder if it isn't some kind of "trap entry," in case other people just wholesale copy Necromancer's work and try to pass it off as their own? Kind of like how cartographers put "trap streets" on their maps to catch copyright infringers.]]> Marveloid General Discussion Fri, 28 Jul 2023 21:00:17 -0600 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85803#msg-85803 Mobius Strip? https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?3,85803,85803#msg-85803
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Ultimate Powers Book by Necromancer
M37/Mobius Strip**: The Mobius Strip or Mobius Loop, Mobius Band or Mobius is a surface with only one side (when embedded in three dimensional Euclidian space) and only one boundary. The Mobius Strip has the mathematical property of being unorientable. It can be realized as a rules surface. It’s discovery is attributed to Ferdinand Mobius in 1858. A hero who can perform the higher level of mathematics required to understand the Mobius Strip can use it to teleport through space and time anywhere with in the Omniverse, limited only by their
Power Rank. The hero may teleport to distant stars and worlds or even alternate dimensions or times. Powers which block Teleport are uneffective against the Mobius Strip. By holding hands, a user of the Mobius Strip may take along passengers with him through Euclidian spaces. A user of the Mobius Strip may also speak with the spirits of the dead and as a power stunt may eventually learn Zombie Animation.

Anyone have a clue where this came from? There's nothing for it in the SuperPowers wiki...]]> barna10 General Discussion Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:26:00 -0600