Let's Be REASONable. Our local paper has the daily Spider-Man strip and it recently began an arc about Egghead. Wanting to know more about this villain, I quickly consulted the handy character profiles on this site and was surprised to discover the villain's Reason listed as a mere Excellent. Turns out this is the baseline Reason for a Marvel scientist, as listed in the Judge's Book, but that spurred me further investigation, and a question: are the Reason stats consistently portrayed? I think for the most part they are, but would appreciate input. Here's a brief list of Marvel intelligentsia and their listed Reasons: Arnim Zola IN Beast IN Black Panther RM Bruce Banner RM Captain America EX (Is Cap this smart? He's not dumb, but I'm not sure he's scientist material.) Curt Conners EX Doc Sampson EX Doctor Doom AM Doctor Druid EX Doctor Octopus RM Egghead EX Emma Frost RM Forge IN Green Goblin EX (seems low for the Lex Luthor of Marvel) Guardian IN Hank Pym RM Kitty Pryde RM Leader AM Mad Thinker AM Magneto IN Mandarin IN Mister Sinister IN Morbius RM Peter Parker EX Professor X RM Red Ghost RM Reed Richards AM Roger Bochs EX Sebastian Shaw EX Sidewinder EX Tinkerer IN Tony Stark IN Vanisher RM Vulture GD (Only GD? Well, I guess he spent a lot of karma that one time.) Walter Langkowski RM Wizard IN https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,84498#msg-84498 Sat, 18 May 2024 11:34:07 -0600 Phorum 5.2.22 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,85934#msg-85934 Re: Let's Be REASONable. https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,85934#msg-85934
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Our local paper has the daily Spider-Man strip and it recently began an arc about Egghead. Wanting to know more about this villain, I quickly consulted the handy character profiles on this site and was surprised to discover the villain's Reason listed as a mere Excellent. Turns out this is the baseline Reason for a Marvel scientist, as listed in the Judge's Book, but that spurred me further investigation, and a question: are the Reason stats consistently portrayed? I think for the most part they are, but would appreciate input. Here's a brief list of Marvel intelligentsia and their listed Reasons:

Arnim Zola IN
Beast IN
Black Panther RM
Bruce Banner RM

Captain America EX (Is Cap this smart? He's not dumb, but I'm not sure he's scientist material.)
Curt Conners EX

Doc Sampson EX
Doctor Doom AM
Doctor Druid EX
Doctor Octopus RM

Egghead EX
Emma Frost RM
Forge IN

Green Goblin EX (seems low for the Lex Luthor of Marvel)
Guardian IN

Hank Pym RM
Kitty Pryde RM
Leader AM

Mad Thinker AM
Magneto IN
Mandarin IN
Mister Sinister IN
Morbius RM

Peter Parker EX
Professor X RM
Red Ghost RM
Reed Richards AM
Roger Bochs EX

Sebastian Shaw EX
Sidewinder EX
Tinkerer IN
Tony Stark IN

Vanisher RM
Vulture GD (Only GD? Well, I guess he spent a lot of karma that one time.)
Walter Langkowski RM
Wizard IN

Mister Fantastic's reasoning is beyond the Amazing rank. Somewhere in between Amazing and Monstrous. It's Fantastic.]]>
Taarna Canon Character Write-ups Thu, 16 Nov 2023 06:53:23 -0700
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earlier stats had him at Gd-10 for a while. Good seems a fair rank for Caps' reason]]>
G.A.W. Canon Character Write-ups Sun, 12 Nov 2023 01:43:31 -0700
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If there was a power rank between Amazing and Monstrous, I would put Doom and Richards in that spot.

As for Egghead, is excellent high enough?

Surely EGGcellent is the perfect Rank for Egghead!]]>
The Real Time Traveller (R) Canon Character Write-ups Mon, 02 Jan 2023 03:41:01 -0700
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As for Egghead, is excellent high enough? I mean he seems to exist in both and Marvel and DC universe.

Someday maybe he'll tell us who's the better super hero. Batman or Spiderman?]]>
Taarna Canon Character Write-ups Sat, 05 Dec 2020 06:05:43 -0700
https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,84510#msg-84510 Re: Let's Be REASONable. https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,84510#msg-84510 Pel Morba Canon Character Write-ups Fri, 04 Dec 2020 20:50:55 -0700 https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,84509#msg-84509 Re: Let's Be REASONable. https://classicmarvelforever.com/phorum/read.php?4,84498,84509#msg-84509
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Good points, both, but I'm just comparing what for Marvel is base intelligence and trying to determine just how much power creep has occurred. Granted, with talents some of the characters can punch way above their weight class, and others like Doom can pull off some truly terrifying technological terrors. Everything starts with their Reason, though. The rest are just column shifts. Here are a few that jumped out at me:

Beast. Hank's the scientist supreme of the X-Mansion. Given what he's worked on over the years, he's quite intelligent, but I'd rate him at RM Reason (because of his talents).

Beast has created some impressive technology in his time, most of it revolving around genetics. Most especially, during his time with the Avengers when he had access to federal funding. Good examples include: the power inhibitor which was adapted for Sentinel technology, his various serums which induce/revert mutations and jet propulsion and stealth technology..

Norman Osborn. He's supposed to be an insane genius, but he's usually only rolling on the RM column. Smarter than the average schmo, but not much more. Maybe that's why his schemes fail a lot.

Despite Norman's gifted intellect, he is also deranged from the Goblin Formula. Often his own greed and poor temper destroy his brilliant plans.

Leader. If he's as smart as Doom/Richards, why isn't he throwing time machines and star drives at the Hulk? Is he the Ferris Bueller of the gamma world? Seriously, he has "all scientific talents" and has a good shot at rolling on the UN column so what's he really doing in his spare time? Authoring the Times crossword?

As someone who has collected long stints of The Incredible Hulk from the Silver Age to the Bronze Age, the Leader has made extensive use of time travel, created countless artificial and genetic life forms and even created a self aware artificial intelligence in his orbital space station known as Omnivac. A "typical" plot by the Leader revolves around traveling back in time to the Primordial Sludge and having a mind controlled Captain Marvel II gamma irradiate humanity before they crawled from the slime or infecting the city's water reserve to gamma irradiate the entire population. Back in the day, the Leader also always carried teleportation technology to escape justice when his plans were defeated. Also, there was that time he detonated a freaking Gamma Bomb in Middletown, Arizona. I don't know what else the man has left to prove.
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Necromancer Canon Character Write-ups Fri, 04 Dec 2020 13:27:54 -0700
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Pel Morba
Good points, both, but I'm just comparing what for Marvel is base intelligence and trying to determine just how much power creep has occurred. Granted, with talents some of the characters can punch way above their weight class, and others like Doom can pull off some truly terrifying technological terrors. Everything starts with their Reason, though. The rest are just column shifts. Here are a few that jumped out at me:

Beast. Hank's the scientist supreme of the X-Mansion. Given what he's worked on over the years, he's quite intelligent, but I'd rate him at RM Reason (because of his talents).

Norman Osborn. He's supposed to be an insane genius, but he's usually only rolling on the RM column. Smarter than the average schmo, but not much more. Maybe that's why his schemes fail a lot.

Leader. If he's as smart as Doom/Richards, why isn't he throwing time machines and star drives at the Hulk? Is he the Ferris Bueller of the gamma world? Seriously, he has "all scientific talents" and has a good shot at rolling on the UN column so what's he really doing in his spare time? Authoring the Times crossword?

Leader actually DID throw a time machine at the Hulk, he intended to use it to go into the pass and increase the gamma exposure rate to the Earth in the primordial past so that all life on Earth would be a gamma mutate (which it would have just sterilized Earth).]]>
Nightmask Canon Character Write-ups Fri, 04 Dec 2020 13:20:55 -0700
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Beast. Hank's the scientist supreme of the X-Mansion. Given what he's worked on over the years, he's quite intelligent, but I'd rate him at RM Reason (because of his talents).

Norman Osborn. He's supposed to be an insane genius, but he's usually only rolling on the RM column. Smarter than the average schmo, but not much more. Maybe that's why his schemes fail a lot.

Leader. If he's as smart as Doom/Richards, why isn't he throwing time machines and star drives at the Hulk? Is he the Ferris Bueller of the gamma world? Seriously, he has "all scientific talents" and has a good shot at rolling on the UN column so what's he really doing in his spare time? Authoring the Times crossword?]]>
Pel Morba Canon Character Write-ups Fri, 04 Dec 2020 12:20:21 -0700
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Arnim Zola IN
Beast IN
Black Panther RM
Bruce Banner RM

Captain America EX (Is Cap this smart? He's not dumb, but I'm not sure he's scientist material.)
Curt Conners EX

Doc Sampson EX
Doctor Doom AM
Doctor Druid EX
Doctor Octopus RM

Egghead EX
Emma Frost RM
Forge IN

Green Goblin EX (seems low for the Lex Luthor of Marvel)
Guardian IN

Hank Pym RM
Kitty Pryde RM
Leader AM

Mad Thinker AM
Magneto IN
Mandarin IN
Mister Sinister IN
Morbius RM

Peter Parker EX
Professor X RM
Red Ghost RM
Reed Richards AM
Roger Bochs EX

Sebastian Shaw EX
Sidewinder EX
Tinkerer IN
Tony Stark IN

Vanisher RM
Vulture GD (Only GD? Well, I guess he spent a lot of karma that one time.)
Walter Langkowski RM
Wizard IN]]>
Pel Morba Canon Character Write-ups Thu, 03 Dec 2020 10:28:52 -0700