Hmmmmm, maybe you were right.

How about having Fallen Angel with Jack-O-lantern and Powersurge.

Conditions are that they have been briefed about the Fellon who is currently tearing up the city demanding that those responsible for his condition turn up and face him.

Only problem is that they are currently not about. Probably not in this dimention if I have my own time line correct.

Powersurge has been given the low down and has had time to be properly brief on the abilities of the other two.

If this Villain is enough of a threat you can even pull Flaming Fox of the Fantastic Four into the mix.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2010 11:59PM by Fangs.

Looking at smash I believe that flaming fox could defeat her. It would be a push but I think it possible

Hey Fangs,

Are you referring to the character I posted on CapoCostillos' page?

yes

Drop Smashs' E: Down to Sh X 150. He is an ambush fighter. He will usually locate his target. Get some running or flying room, and then do a charging attack. He is a rinse, wash and repeat fighter from how my girlfriend was explaining him to me. If he succeeds on his Ca he will try for a Gp attack and take Flaming Fox through walls doing Mat. Str. dmg. of each of the walls he goes through to Flaming Fox. If he misses he'll take flight get some room and come back for another Ca.

Please note she just threw this guy together for the hell of it so I don't have a mental picture of his ethics. She never told me he was a good guy and since he charges guys threw buildings I am inclined to think he doesn't care who is in them or if the buildings collapse.

Also keep in mind his Ca attack can do anywhere from 150-230 points of damage. If he does a Ca attack while flying he can travel 40 areas/rd. Giving him 80 added points to his E: for damage.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2010 05:35PM by Fellupthestairs.

That is not a problem as Flaming Fox has health Drain which is contact based.

That and hypnotic resonance and some body armour from flame gen and I think that FF may be able to handle the situation

The majority of Earth's mightiest defenders (Avengers, FF, X-Men, "Soviet Super Soliders", Alpha Flight, etc.) are currently off lanet or otherwise preoccuppied when the Shi'ar decide they shall annex Earth. Their strike shall be led by the Imperial Guard, whose aim is to break all super-powered resistence on Earth before the warships and ground troops are sent in.

Some lesser known Earth-loving superhero has gotten wind of this preemptive attack and is assembling a band of heroes to head of this threat.

The Shi'ar strikeforce consists of ...

Gladiator, the Mentor, Oracle, Starbolt, Warstar, Hussar, Pulsar, Fang, Titan, Smasher, Nightside, Manta, and Earthquake.

Who shall rise to the defense of Earth? And will these "benchwarmer" heroes have a hope of defeating one of the mightiest super-powered groups in the known universe?

An interesting challenge. I'd put in Starfox since she's got a history with the Shi'ar and would line up nicely as a result and at least one character needs to be able to at least delay or stalemate Gladiator but will offer up Eon ( [www.classicmarvelforever.com] ) as a possible member of the hastily formed defense group. Unless someone else would like that challenge in which case I think Nightstalker ( [www.classicmarvelforever.com] ) would prove of great value to the team.

Now that’s a good one PowerSurge…..


Gladiator, Mentor, Oracle, Starbolt, Warstar, Hussar, Pulsar, Fang, Titan, Smasher, Nightside, Manta, and Earthquake.

Given the threat of these 13 Characters I propose some of my PWR and GCI-Strike-Force Guys…..

This is pretty much what they do as ‘Super-Heroes’……. ‘Defend the Earth from Galactic Invasions’


Members from PWR:
[www.classicmarvelforever.com]

- Biowolf: (PWR Leader… Basically he’s an Energy / Regen / Weapons Master ‘Tank’)
- Donovan: (PWR ‘Muscle-Man’ Basically he’s an Supa-Strength / Will-Power ‘Brute’)
- Strange-Scange: (PWR ‘Wizard’… Basically uses Magic at SX:150 to Sz:350)
- Gatlon: (PWR ‘Man-At-Arms’… Basically a Munitions Blaster)
- Replicator: (PWR ‘Shape-Shifter)
- Pepper: (PWR Warrior-Chic… Basically a high-end Scrapper)


Members From GCI-Strike-Force
[www.classicmarvelforever.com]

- Blazer: (GCI-SF Leader… Basically a high-tech Energy Blaster)
- Spike: (GCI-SF Warrior… Basically a high-end Claws / Regen Scrapper.. Maybe considered a ‘Brute’)
- Tigrus: (GCI-SF Pilot of the AVF-27.E ‘Humming-Bird’…. Could be played as a high-end Blaster)
- Blue Angel: (GCI-SF Aerial Cosmonaut…. Pretty much a Flying Tank)
- Ray-Zin with BASH Mecha-Suit: (GCI-SF Aerial Cosmonaut… Also a Flying Tank)


And the two guys I wrote up for Capo’s 1200 Point Builds….
[www.classicmarvelforever.com]

- Tanker-Ace
- SUPA-FLUFFY




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/31/2010 11:18AM by TankerAce.

Just an idea, but how about we each propose 1 character to take on the Imperial Guard, that way we don't have a whole slew of team battles going on at once. For my contribution, I'd send in Galactic Defender Vulcan from my homebrew thread. He might be an interesting matchup with Gladiator.

Sure he is avillain but I will submit Rough Cut, He definately would prefer to deal with the devils he knows than any offworld mugs anyway.

That and also Flaming Fox as they both have no history together and Flaming Fox has history with the Shi'ar as well

I'll contribute the Examiner ...

[www.classicmarvelforever.com]

He'll help offset the Mentor, and, as a Protector, has also faced off against the Imperial Guard before.

Are we going to have to chose between all the submissions to take on Gladiator??? lol

Oh, just a note on Examiner. These stats are of "old school" Examiner before he got rid of the staff and incorporated his energy blast into his gauntlets. Otherwise, the stats remain the same. The change was mostly aesthetic, as you might note in the verbal description (old) and it's contrast to the picture (new-er).

CapoCastillo Wrote:
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> Just an idea, but how about we each propose 1
> character to take on the Imperial Guard, that way
> we don't have a whole slew of team battles going
> on at once. For my contribution, I'd send in
> Galactic Defender Vulcan from my homebrew thread.
> He might be an interesting matchup with Gladiator.


Do you mean one character to fight the entire team, one character to deal with a specific Imperial Guardsman, or one character as part of a team of heroes to deal with the Imperial Guard? Since I assumed from the challenge's wording the last of the three.

Just One….. ummmmmm…. OK….

The PWR and GCI Characters I’ve actually played in various campaigns…..

So I’ll go with ‘Spike’



Specification Write-Up near the top…
[www.classicmarvelforever.com]

We all contribute one character to form a 'homebrew' team to take on the IG.



Nightmask Wrote:
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> CapoCastillo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just an idea, but how about we each propose 1
> > character to take on the Imperial Guard, that
> way
> > we don't have a whole slew of team battles
> going
> > on at once. For my contribution, I'd send in
> > Galactic Defender Vulcan from my homebrew
> thread.
> > He might be an interesting matchup with
> Gladiator.
>
>
> Do you mean one character to fight the entire
> team, one character to deal with a specific
> Imperial Guardsman, or one character as part of a
> team of heroes to deal with the Imperial Guard?
> Since I assumed from the challenge's wording the
> last of the three.

I assume no 1200 pointers?

CapoCastillo Wrote:
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> We all contribute one character to form a
> 'homebrew' team to take on the IG.

Which goes back to my original reply since everyone submitting a character that can at least challenge Gladiator it'll end up quick work being made of the rest of the Imperial Guard and come down to Gladiator vs the hero team where everyone's roughly on par with him. Unless the team was very light (like just 3-4 characters), since a half-dozen Gladiator grade characters would fair pretty easy against the IG. For which I'd still go with Eon as teammate for the group unless it was fairly large so all heavy hitters wasn't so important (although looks like from the responses so far Eon's a good choice then).

Most of the guys PowerSurge posted do not have specifications in the Profile listing…..

I figured most of those Characters were about equal with Gladiator…..

I think that Children of the Atom has some IG stats. Wikipedia also has writes ups on them to give you an idea of their powers. Most of th IG seem to hang at around X-Men levels of power. Gladiator amongst the IG is like a Thor amongst the X-Men. He's WAY more powerful than any one of them.

Powersurge Wrote:
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> I think that Children of the Atom has some IG
> stats. Wikipedia also has writes ups on them to
> give you an idea of their powers. Most of th IG
> seem to hang at around X-Men levels of power.
> Gladiator amongst the IG is like a Thor amongst
> the X-Men. He's WAY more powerful than any one of
> them.

They're covered in the third Gamers Handbook under the Imperial Guard entry. Only Gladiator has a separate listing as he's the one most frequently seen I imagine.

TankerAce Wrote:
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> Most of the guys PowerSurge posted do not have
> specifications in the Profile listing…..
>
> I figured most of those Characters were about
> equal with Gladiator…..

As PS notes most aren't that close to Gladiator in power and are closer to the X-men in capacity, although going up against the entire group there are at least 3 doing damage close to his level (although I think Mentor's way overstatted when it comes to his genius). They mostly make up for it due to their elite training and being generally arrogant and obnoxiously pretentious that just because they're part of the Shi'ar empire that somehow no one should be superior to them. Something that tends to get them smacked down.

AWWWW CRAP….. I thought they were all like ‘Galactic’ level warriors…. Straight putting Iron-Man in a head-lock and popping-off the face plate like a can’o’spinach…..

Then throwing Hulk into an Arm-Bar making him beg for mercy….

I’d haffta change up my entry…..

If need be, i'll trade out Galactic Defender Vulcan with Fallen Angel, or i could put in an exception that Galactic Defender Vulcan can't summon the giant robot for at least 10 rounds.

TankerAce Wrote:
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> AWWWW CRAP….. I thought they were all like
> ‘Galactic’ level warriors…. Straight putting
> Iron-Man in a head-lock and popping-off the face
> plate like a can’o’spinach…..
>
> Then throwing Hulk into an Arm-Bar making him beg
> for mercy….
>
> I’d haffta change up my entry…..

Well Gladiator-level power isn't a requirement to be a Galactic level warrior, as most galactic civilizations aren't depicted with members who're generally that much more powerful than a human being so being X-men or FF level is still pretty high. Plus the Shi'ar for all their pretensions of superiority in regards to cultural advancement have zero problems with hitting a target with overwhelming and lethal power and enslaving anyone that refuses to capitulate to their empire-building goals (like the Mephitisoids).

So what would be the final line up.
Gladiator, the Mentor, Oracle, Starbolt, Warstar, Hussar, Pulsar, Fang,
Titan, Smasher, Nightside, Manta, and Earthquake.
â 
â 
Vs

Is it Fallen Angel, Starfox, Night Stalker, Examiner, Eon, Spike, Flaming Fox,
Rough Cut and Galactic Defender Vulcan?

Well that's 13 vs 9

So then, next is the location.
I will assume that they would start with the major countries such as:
China, India, America, Russia and Japan

Or just hit the UN when the are convened. I think the UN council would be
the more likely target. Nothing like throwing in world leaders as hostages.

What does everyone else think.

Fangs Wrote:
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> So what would be the final line up.
> Gladiator, the Mentor, Oracle, Starbolt, Warstar,
> Hussar, Pulsar, Fang,
> Titan, Smasher, Nightside, Manta, and Earthquake.
> â 
> â 
> Vs
>
> Is it Fallen Angel, Starfox, Night Stalker,
> Examiner, Eon, Spike, Flaming Fox,
> Rough Cut and Galactic Defender Vulcan?
>
> Well that's 13 vs 9

Hmmm, thought we were only contributing one character each? Starfox in with all those others wouldn't have problems at all handling Gladiator (also since I ended up with both a Nightstalker and a Night Stalker I will make sure it's noted I referenced the demihuman one with the combined powers of most of the first All New X-men line up). It'd skew things way too much in favor of the defenders having her alongside a line-up like that. I just felt that the group needed someone to reasonably challenge Gladiator and offered up Eon for that if no one else had or wanted to offer up a character to challenge him, if they did then I offered Nightstalker to help deal with the other 12. So more like 13 vs 7 since otherwise that's 3 characters I've got in the line-up (and maybe 2 by Capo?). I don't want to unfairly dominate things.

> So then, next is the location.
> I will assume that they would start with the major
> countries such as:
> China, India, America, Russia and Japan
>
> Or just hit the UN when the are convened. I think
> the UN council would be
> the more likely target. Nothing like throwing in
> world leaders as hostages.
>
> What does everyone else think.

Given the premise is they're looking to annex Earth finally rather than be 'hands off' I would think they would indeed go at the UN during one of its full sessions to demonstrate their power and declare that they're exercising their 'right' to annex such a 'primitive' planet for its own good. So while NYC invasion attacks are a bit overdone that would be the most likely target I think given the premise.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2010 01:37PM by Nightmask.

Also hope this can speed up some, could use the diversion around here of some nice simple homebrew on homebrew or canon byplays. We simply aren't seeing enough energy going into these threads instead of the contentious ones.

NM,
Who would be a fair contender for my posted character Knockout?

While waiting to see how the Shi'ar vs goes and in hopes of providing some more enjoyable debate thought I'd toss a character or two out and see if anyone will toss up their homebrew against her and give her a challenge. Certainly someone's got a character or two to try out against these ladies.

We've got Gun Bunny ( [www.classicmarvelforever.com] ) as an option, deceptively curvy with a love for weapons and surviving.

Or there's Psion ( [www.classicmarvelforever.com] ), power armor hero and minor mutant.

Stealth ( [www.classicmarvelforever.com] ), a dedicated martial artist.

Pandora ( [www.classicmarvelforever.com] ) specialist in the trident and master of Plasma.

Or suggest someone else from my collection that's posted here and one of your creations (or more if you feel it makes the fight more balanced/fair). Let's see some good energy here.